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secretly-misha:

poetrytofish:

why mothers dying on Supernatural is the grossest: a rant

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Might I say that I 100% agree with this, it’s enforcing the stereotype that only men can protect people/be brave/fight which isn’t true at all .I think Misha would also support this, and I mean it seriously. He would.

I’m pretty sure their Dad died as well. Why isn’t anyone writing a massive paragraph about all of the men that have died in Supernatural?

Why is anyone writing a massive paragraph in the first place? You’re looking way into this..

Hi okay not to single you out, I’ve just been meaning to talk about this and now I have a platform~

I ran the numbers for recurring characters and their deaths. Men and women die about equally (there was less than a percent difference in my math, which, admittedly, could be wrong, but the point is it’s nearly the same), but it’s the way in which they die that’s important.

I was only focusing on recurring characters, keep in mind. Meg is fridged. Channing is fridged. I would count Sarah Blake as fridged. Versus men, whose deaths aren’t built up with emotional impact or to further the angst of men. I don’t remember weeping over Frank Devereaux’s death. I don’t remember crying about Rufus. (I love Rufus, don’t get me wrong. It was just wedged in an episode titled “And Then There Were None” which killed a crapload of characters in 40 minutes or less.) 

And you can definitely argue that men are given emotional deaths—Gabriel, for instance. But Gabriel’s death is framed as heroic. How many women are given heroic deaths? Ellen and Jo…? Okay. Who else? You can’t tell me that Pamela Barnes died heroically. She died as a hero, but she did not die heroically, bleeding to death on a motel floor.

It’s not just recurring characters, either. I was grabbing lunch in the cafe yesterday, talking to Booky, and they mentioned how in Dead in the Water, a woman died in a bikini and was filmed with crotch shots, but a man died fully clothed in a sink. That is the tip of the iceberg. I don’t have the time or the patience to go through every Supernatural episode and weigh the deaths of men, women, and monsters, and how many die, and how they die. But I think it’s pretty obvious that women are killed more violently, in a more male gaze-y manner, or their deaths are treated as a plot device to further something for the Winchesters—increase angst (ie, Ellen and Jo), put them into action (ie, Mary), etc. Maybe men die more on the show. (And that, I think, has to do with the fact that the show doesn’t focus much on women.) But the way in which men and women die is drastically different, and women’s deaths are more about men than they are women.

sticking this vid on here, if people haven’t seen it yet. Clips are JUST from seasons 1 and 2:

Women’s Work 
[warnings for violence, blood, death, non consensual sexual overtones, basically NSFW]

some creator commentary here and in the comments, and what blows my mind is that this is from like five years ago, so we haven’t even gotten to the deaths of Ellen, Jo, Pamela, and Sarah!

Back to OP: Sarah Blake is the pedistaled “girl that got away”, also now a mother!, and she’s brought back to the show to be killed off as emphasis for how bad the villain is, and added opmph for the protagonist’s manpain??? ARGH

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theplanetmidnight:

I sometimes wish that Sam had gone full dark side

not in a ‘lets write fics about dark!sam doing horrific things way’ (okay that comes off judge-y. I don’t mean it to be, it’s just not what I’m envisioning)

I wish that sam had fallen in with the demons completely and spn had really followed through on the demons vs angels theme they had in s4

so like, I wish he had taken up the boy king mantle, but not in a power hungry way. I just think spending so much time with ruby and stuff might have made him a little bit more sympathetic to demons? so he kind of realizes the utter unfair and unforgiving way people are distributed to heaven and hell. so, he kind of positions himself along with the demons. not in pro lucifer way. in a, hey this morality is fucked up and people are often damned by destiny and I’m rejecting that shit. I’m going into this destiny that has been ordained to me, but I’m not giving up by doing it. I’m doing it for my own reason and thereby making this destiny my own. this isn’t me falling, this is me jumping (and that makes the world of fucking difference)

and then by doing that, pre determination could have been explored in a more nuanced way? rather than blaming people for their actions, they could have blamed the circumstances that forced them into it. 

which would have made the message of free will and stuff more powerful,  cause like, both heaven and hell are theses really paternalistic chains of command and you’re supposed to blindly obey. so, dean and sam being positioned with these systems -but not serving them, positioning themselves with the victims of these system- could have been pretty powerful in terms of them dealing with their issues with john? like textually, that would have made a lot of sense

so, dean is with the angels and sam is with the demons, and these are the roles that fate (that is always a father in this narrative) pushed them into, but they are doing it for their own reasons, and not doing what they’re supposed to in these roles - and it doing so COMPLETELY subverts it. 

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